Topic: MOORING AT HIRE BOATYARDS


123debs456    -- Jun-24-2012 @ 4:08 PM
  Hi does anyone know if privately owned boats are allowed to moor at hire boatyards, outside of changeover days? Thanks


ranworthbreeze    -- Jun-24-2012 @ 4:26 PM
  From the notices outside most of the yards they are available for boats from other hire boatyards but not for private boats, I have asked at a few in the past but those I asked refuse to let me moor even at times when the weather was not good.

Regards
Alan Hood
Ranworth Breeze Boat Syndicate
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123debs456    -- Jun-24-2012 @ 4:38 PM
  Thanks for that, we thought that was the case, but a friend had heard the opposite so I just wanted to check!

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Trevor    -- Jun-24-2012 @ 5:03 PM
  Herbert Woods let you moor for a fee we have used them even Barnes and Royalls in worxham but they all normally charge so long as they space. There maybe others as well.
The one that has a sign to say no is faircraft in wroxham others you would have to ask.

Trevor & Deirdre


garryn    -- Jun-24-2012 @ 5:04 PM
  Some will let private boats moor for a fee. I believe Barns and Herbert Woods for instance do this.

Garry


garryn    -- Jun-24-2012 @ 5:06 PM
  Just beat me Trevor.

Garry


steve    -- Jun-24-2012 @ 6:13 PM
  hi there ,
i've usually moor in some hireboat yards over our easter / august / october hols , i always offer to pay a mooring fee , some take it , some won't it take but thank me for the offer , just remember though to keep away /out of hireboat yards friday's , saturdays , due change over of boats ,the only yard i've heard of that does'nt let private boats moor in , is faircraft lyons ,

steve and vicky


SteveO    -- Jun-25-2012 @ 11:43 AM
  Richardsons let privateers moor at Stalham, although common sense should be applied and busy times avoided.

Cheers

Steve

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Lingering in the golden gleam
Life, what is it but a dream?


123debs456    -- Jun-25-2012 @ 9:12 PM
  wow, this is looking much better, thanks everyone

"Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats."


Wind in The Willows


tc    -- Aug-13-2012 @ 8:41 AM
  Drl marine services at womack water let you moor during the week (4£)but have to move by 9am Friday good moorings and only 50p more than parish staithe and a better view down river,this is a fairly  new service you couldn't moor there before even if you was a hire boat they are not in the federation



JennyMorgan    -- Aug-13-2012 @ 1:17 PM
  I always enjoy dropping in at Martham Boats but apart from that I can't think of a less appealing mooring spot than a hire boatyard! Handy for service or advice, but also risky spots to moor for those of us who cherish our paintwork or gel coat.

Jenny Morgan,
A vane, a boat, but not a
bird.

The Broads is NOT a National
Park, let's keep it that way!


dannyb1    -- Aug-13-2012 @ 2:44 PM
  Avoid Horizon Craft at Acle if you have your own boat


tc    -- Aug-13-2012 @ 3:00 PM
  rather contradictory you do or you don't,it doesn't answer the original question,i get the impression it may be in an emergency as in late in the day,not every boat hirer can afford to buy a boat and i am sure the majority dont want to damage other boats  


JennyMorgan    -- Aug-13-2012 @ 7:05 PM
  I don't suppose for one minute that any hirer would want to bounce off and damage another boat, least of all someone's pride and joy. But the harsh reality is that accidents do happen and hire boats tend to be big beasts. Hire boat yards do tend to attract a greater concentration of hire-craft.

Jenny Morgan,
A vane, a boat, but not a
bird.

The Broads is NOT a National
Park, let's keep it that way!


steve    -- Aug-13-2012 @ 7:26 PM
  hi there ,
we've always felt welcomed at herbert woods yard as a owner ,also the same at swan craft , have always offerd to pay for an over nite stay if we planning an over niter, but have been told not to worry about it , i also usaully find that if a hirecraft does come into the yard , yard staff are there to help them im ,myself included,

steve and vicky


norflok1    -- Aug-13-2012 @ 7:48 PM
  it cost me £7.50 at herbert woods this year first time in 9 years with my own boat


PizzaLover    -- Aug-13-2012 @ 9:19 PM
  Switching the thread around a bit, though not the title.
It is one of the benefits of hiring that hirers can use other yards.
There was a time when hirers were told that they could "moor at any Blakes or Hoseasons yard"
I believe, pedantically, that wasn't quite true... since I think the permit to moor was related to the yard's membership of the Broads Hire Boat Federation.

But it was Good. No matter how full a staithe was, a hirer could use visitor moorings at a friendly boatyard.

Now that Blakes and Hoseasons are remote agencies, there is no longer an impression on the Broads that there are "Blakes or Hoseasons yards" to moor at.

If a hirer were to take a boat into Wroxham or Brundall, or Potter Heigham, what indication would they have that there were visitor moorings available in the boatyards?

I think that the BHBF needs to change with the times and start encouraging its members to
A) put up signs to show that visiting hirers are welcome, and
B) indicate on each boat that it is a member of the federation, and entitled to moor at a BHBF yard (when available.)

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kfurbank    -- Aug-14-2012 @ 9:49 AM
  With regards to paying to moor at Herbert Woods, I also had to pay for the first time this year. It is also worth noting that they will not allow visitors to park in their car park under any circumstances. Only HW customers can park there and that does not extend to people paying to moor overnight.

For the last few years I have moored overnight at Herbert Woods during the 3RR and then been met by some friends in a car and we have driven around various vantage points to watch the race before returning back to the boat for the night. Did the same this year and as usual went to reception to enquire if it was ok to moor overnight. When it was established it was a private boat, I was told that this year there is a charge. No problem, but you have to go to the boat sales office and pay there. Went over to pay and then asked about parking to be told that they don't allow any visitor parking, only customer parking, and despite paying for a mooring we didn't qualify as a customer Frown  Only customers of their hire boats. They did say that we could park in the Lathams car park overnight but we would have to pay. After many enquiries in Lathams we eventually found out that you can pay at the customer services desk for overnight parking. I can't remember the parking charge now, but still consider it money well spent to moor in the yard overnight safely protected from all those wild rag and stick merchants racing around  Evil Grin

This message was edited by kfurbank on Aug-14-12 @ 10:50 AM


boat-mad    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 9:18 AM
  Does anyone know that hiring a boat from Herbert Woods entitles you to moor at other hire boatyards?

As Herbert Woods are not associated with Hoseasons or Blakes I wondered if you would be classed as a private boat and therefore excluded.

Kind Regards
Alan...
www.mynorfolkbroadsboating.co.uk/


This message was edited by boat-mad on Aug-16-13 @ 10:20 AM


BroadScot    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 9:30 AM
  I am sure I saw a HB boat moored yesterday at Barnes Brinkcrafts yard on web cam.

Iain.

Lower your windscreen!!! Ooops too late!


BroadScot    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 9:31 AM
  Ooops HW  dunce

Iain.

Lower your windscreen!!! Ooops too late!


londonrascal    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 9:39 AM
  Herbert Woods are members of the Broads Hireboat Federation, and it is this which means one can more at any other federation boatyard - not an affiliation with a booking agency.  

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boat-mad    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 9:42 AM
  Thanks for that Robin.

Kind Regards
Alan...
www.mynorfolkbroadsboating.co.uk/


steve    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 3:32 PM
  hi there ,
yes you'll be allowed in any hireboatyard , but just remember that you are asked to stay away on the eve of takeover days , takeover days , ie , friday nights, saturdays, some even ask not on thursdays to ,there should be a list of hireboat yards in your skippers manual on your hireboat ,
some hireboat yard moorings also have an added plus , ie ,if you was to want to stop at the ferry inn over nite , you could moor at ferry marina right next door to the ferry inn , and not end up paying the over night mooring fee if you was to moor outside the ferry inn !

steve and vicky


londonrascal    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 4:37 PM
  Regarding Ferry Marina (hire boat) moorings.

I've never seen the ones that face river free - as in not taken by their own fleet.

TO be honest, I feel a little worried about heading down the dyke because it is lined with private moorings - should I not find a space and then have to turn a hire boat around with so many peoples own boats close by.

It is the same reason I've never gone to Boulters since I would worry someone may think 'what is a hire boat doing going off down there'.

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tc    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 5:38 PM
  Turning left after the turning to ferry marina towards boulters you have what used to be woodsdyke boatyard now owned by ferry marina there is ample moorings there with access to the ferry inn and the village, new inn, swan etc its never been widely publicised but if it belongs to the marina the same may apply


Paladine    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 5:49 PM
 
"It is the same reason I've never gone to Boulters since I would worry someone may think 'what is a hire boat doing going off down there'. "

londonrascal, Woods Dyke, as far as I am aware, is part of the navigation. No-one is going to say anything to you for taking a hire boat down there. Until quite recently a hire yard (Freedom, I think) used to operate from beyond Boulter's, so hire boats were always up and down.

And don't let the rather confined nature of Boulter's yard put you off, either. There's always someone there to help you in, and they'll turn you on ropes, if necessary. You're missing one of the Broads good experiences   Smile


tc    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 5:59 PM
  Couldn't agree more.Boulters first class Smile


webntweb    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 6:17 PM
  Private boats can usually moor at Summercraft, lovely quiet mooring with easy access to Hoveton – 2 years ago it was £8 with hook up. Royalls will let private boats moor but not shared ownership boats.


londonrascal    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 7:32 PM
  Thanks for the tip with regard to going down the dyke because I know Boulters fuel is of good value.



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Maffman100    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 7:56 PM
  TextForum Regular  Posts: 227 Joined: Oct 2005             Add To Ignore List      Private boats can usually moor at Summercraft, lovely quiet mooring with easy access to Hoveton – 2 years ago it was £8 with hook up. Royalls will let private boats moor but not shared ownership boats.  

Why not shared ownership boats and how would they know?!

Matt

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ranworthbreeze    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 8:45 PM
  Hi Matt,

Why not shared ownership boats and how would they know?!

I have to agree Why?

Regards
Alan

Alan Hood
Ranworth Breeze Boat Syndicate
www.ranworthbreeze.co.uk


Maffman100    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 8:49 PM
  It must be the clientele Alan! Wink

Matt

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webntweb    -- Aug-16-2013 @ 8:57 PM
  Royalls take the stance that shared ownership boats are in competition with their hire fleet.
There are not that many shared boats, its fairly simple to find out which boats are shared via the internet. I suppose there may be some syndicates which only have a few owners that are not so obviously shared craft.

Roy


MrC    -- Aug-17-2013 @ 6:50 AM
  "Royalls take the stance that shared ownership boats are in competition with their hire fleet."

But arnt all hire craft in competition with there hire fleet as well?

Chris


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