Topic: BARGAIN,?????


Greybeard    -- Nov-21-2021 @ 5:20 PM
  Or just another ebay scammer.?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125013236906?hash=item1d1b5e9caa:g:mxAAAOSww41hmhnR

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JollyRodger    -- Nov-21-2021 @ 7:32 PM
  A scam? Maybe, maybe not. My guess is that someone is simply trying to offload a liability, e.g. mooring fee renewal coming up after Christmas. Probably a fair enough price, might go down as desperation kicks in, bit sad really.  

Jolly Roger


Greybeard    -- Nov-21-2021 @ 8:27 PM
  Ebay is full of scammers in virtually every section. the same boats,cars,caravans,plant, and agricultural machinery,repeatedly advertised   ,the genuine owners completely in the dark about it, unused accounts are cloned, and often hundreds of £1000s of items placed at ridiculously low prices, and a mobile number or bogus email address, usually some yarn about working offshore or selling for a friend who doesn't have internet access, and if you pay into some "bogus ebay holding account" and the money will only be taken upon delivery of the boat,car,etc,,.

of course there is no item, the seller is likely a nigeriian gangland prince, and your hard earned just bought another batch of ak47,s to protect the heroin
factory.

and y'all think the bna is corrupt?? LOL

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L'sBelles    -- Nov-21-2021 @ 10:41 PM
  Bit harsh on the chap if he made a genuine mistake in buying this boat. It appears he sells vans since he has three on sale at the moment.

Don't forget the boat is not a runner since it has no engine and it probably needs other work to become ship- shape.
It is moored in North Wales when the seller is in Cumbria so he is unlikely to just be able to nip over there to tend to it so he just wants to cut his losses quickly.

He gives a mobile number if you want to call to discuss it and has good ebay feedback accrued since 2005. Scammers tend to change identities like the weather!

I'm not defending this seller in particular nor ebay either but if you carry out adequate research and always apply the usual caveat, there are still bargains to be had on that platform.




Greybeard    -- Nov-21-2021 @ 11:01 PM
  The seller may well be genuine in this case. only a smart buyer will find out I guess.

and subject to the usual caveats,there are still bargains to be had.

There are also many scammers and cheating lowlifes too,
and they rely on a couple of things,, greed and stupidity,, the internet has an abundance of both, and not limited to ebay.





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Steve51    -- Nov-22-2021 @ 7:15 AM
  I would say it's completely genuine. The Botved Coronet was a nice boat, but unless you happen to have a pair of engines and outdrives in your garden shed, it would cost you more than it's worth to get it back to running order.

Could make a nice project for someone though.  

Steve. CM1 and NR12


Greybeard    -- Nov-22-2021 @ 10:02 AM
  Just to give anyone thinking of purchasing one of these "bargains",, here's an example of what to look out for and walk away.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133939861548?hash=item1f2f70182c:g:o88AAOSwvRlhmBli

this boat was listed some time ago by the real owners and sold by legitimate means.

the pictures are taken from the original listing and then posted on a hacked account often one that has not been used for some time.

always present are the conditions of not contacting through ebay, only on the mobile number given.

this boat along with every other listing in the sellers vast collection of items for sale are not theirs, never have been, and have been advertised over a dozen times falsely in the past few months,
ebay take them down when notified, often by people who recognise their own property. just take a look at their,,"other items"
and they reappear again under another hacked account.

It has been suggested these scammers operate from another country and are highly organised and difficult to track down.

caveat emptor.
ps, the listing may be removed by ebay by the time you look for it. but it will no doubt be back soon, on another hacked account.



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L'sBelles    -- Nov-22-2021 @ 10:32 AM
  GB wrote "There are also many scammers and cheating lowlifes too, and they rely on a couple of things,, greed and stupidity,, the internet has an abundance of both, and not limited to ebay."

I agree entirely and your second example sets off many more alarm bells than the first. For example, the text is exactly the same wording and format for the boat as it is for a 1961 Austin Healey and it must belong to the same "fella" too who's never available to speak to!

Unfortunately, there are a lot of greedy and stupid people around encouraging the dishonest to continue in the knowledge that there is virtually no chance of them being caught.



This message was edited by L'sBelles on Nov-22-21 @ 11:45 AM


Greybeard    -- Nov-27-2021 @ 12:14 AM
  and it's back again along with the usual multitude of "bargains"  on another hacked account.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144307370700?hash=item219963bacc:g:5AIAAOSwNvdhoPdT

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Stingers    -- Nov-27-2021 @ 9:56 AM
  Take a closer look. I think you'll find that its a different boat. The second one has a vent and some timber to the rear of the windows and the first boat does not.

Andy


Dilligaf    -- Nov-27-2021 @ 10:22 AM
  Any scammer would never mention lack of engines/drives, I hope it goes to a good home as it could be a nice boat.
Convert to outboard maybe, a 15hp would be fine for that on inland waterways.

Dave.
Formerly 'LeoMagill'


Greybeard    -- Nov-27-2021 @ 11:13 AM
  stingers , the fjord 24 has been advertised fraudulently  over a dozen times, all on hacked accounts. always the same photo, and always with the bogus contact details outside of ebay. just take a look at the other items,, all cloned fraudulent and previously  advertised legitimately by their owners.

the other boat, a coronet 24  without the motor and drives is believed to be genuine.


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This message was edited by Greybeard on Nov-27-21 @ 12:15 PM


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